The Trail: A Daily Diary of Campaign 2008

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Mike, sorry about my first response. You can support Obama if you want to. It's a free country. I choose not to support Obama. I don't have any problem with Obama or with his supporters. If Obama wins, he deserves our support. If McCain wins, he also deserves our support. We want what is best for our country in the end.

Mike, Obama really got you high into believing his sh*t. Obama is screwing you and the sad thing is that you don't even know it.

Jesse said: because they honestly don't feel that he is ready to lead 150 million Americans and make decisions that affect their lives for the next four years.

That's right, Obama is a uniter and not a divider. He is ready to lead all 300 million Americans and make decisions that affect their life in positive ways. God Bless Obama 2008!

My god, a whitey is smiling, and so damm cose to Him. Good pic our American friends. Best I have seen in a long time. Perhaps you have a chance

Let's hope Obama gets to reprise McCain's famous saunter through an Iraqi market, so that he can proclaim how safe the place is.

JR, Boston, how about regular folks who aren't racists but who won't vote for Obama because they don't like him or because they honestly don't feel that he is ready to lead 150 million Americans and make decisions that affect their lives for the next four years. Racists are people like Jesse Jackson and people who want to put the Obamas in a cage like Planet of the Apes. Know the difference, moron. If you can't see the sarcasm, then you're stupid.

re: Florida, Virginia, and Texas.

Obama is winning this election. He may only get one or two of those states this year, but in 2012 he'll take them all.

The one area that Obama and Reagan are similar in is expectations. People never realized how smart Reagan was. And the same is true with Obama. Racists think- the man is black, he got the nomination from affirmative action, we'll kick his butt in the general election.

Good luck with that- we'll see how it works for ya!

I agree that there are racists in this country who won't vote for Obama. You just have to understand that they are hardcore Republicans. And they are so stupid that when McCain puts a Mormon on the ticket with him they'll sit on their hands and stay at home instead of voting for a Mormon. That's what you Republicans get for creating and promoting a perverted, racist, narrow-minded view of Christianity for your 'evangelical' followers.

And, obviously, you people ought to be ashamed of yourselves for perverting religion as you do. The notion that blacks are somehow inferior is not a traditional understanding of the Bible. I'd call you knuckleheads, but you people know exactly what you were and are doing. And it a sick, twisted and pathetic.

How come the majority of soldiers taking pictures with Obama are black? I thought more white soldiers would take pictures with him.

Frank, your dislike of Bush has made you unbelivably stupid. Don't you know that the anti-Christ is a well like, even beloved, leader that breaks out from nowhere? The anti-Christ is someone that unites all people of the world. Bush is a well disliked president, highly unpopular. So he isn't the anti-Christ. Can't you see that the Muslims (radical or not) are falling in love with Obama? Look!

OBAMA, DEVIL, SATAN

They all have 5 letters. So who's the real anti-Christ? Be afraid.

Pay attention in the next few weeks how the Islamic world warms up to Obama. Be very wary of Obama. Americans are shooting ourselves by electing Obama. Obama is our coffin. OBAMA is HYPOCRISY.

Back home, Obama got good news too in a poll that has him tied in Virginia (http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/07/19/poll-roundup-its-a-tie-in-virginia-mccain-leads-in-alaska/) No Democrat has won that state since 1964 after all!

If you add up the name 'George Bush' in Hebrew letters it comes out:

* G = 3 (gimel)
* e = 5 (heh)
* o = 70 (ayin)
* r = 200 (resh)
* g = 3 (gimel)
* e = 5 (heh)
* B = 2 (beth)
* u = 70 (ayin)
* s = 300 (shin)
* h = 8 (cheth)
* total = 666 (Antichrist)

After Obama finishes his 8 years restoring as president, restoring America to the great nation we were before Bush took office, then Hillary will be as old as McCain is now and then only can she try a run at president again.

If Barack believes what he says, he should have scheduled a tour of Iraq and Afghanistan as soon possible after becoming a Senator. Doing so now, only reinforces the opinion that it is only a publicity stunt. Can you imagine any other politician being taken seriously doing this - going to War Zones during a campaign.

Hey George W. Bush and John McCain have been the ones who keep telling me we have to respect the soverign will of Maliki and the Iraqis.

That it's Maliki's country and that we have to listen to him.

That's all I'm doing. Maliki's saying get out. Should I all of a sudden not be listening to him now?

Gonna be fun watching rethugs choking on their bitter, racist words for 8 years and then receiving their just desserts of Hillary for yet another 8.

Bring 'em on :)

I think we'll be surprised.

I suspect that when a lot of voters get into that booth, they'll vote for McCain, either because Obama's too green, or he's too black.

I predict this will be the great unseen tipper. And exit polls won't reveal it.

"15 points"

"Behind the scenes, journalists still believe, as Newsweek's Evan Thomas blurted out four years ago, that the glow they put on Democratic candidates offers Democrats a 15-point advantage."

Florida, Virginia, and Texas huh? Your post is a fairy tale.

Even with the media, this blog is a perfect example, many, many people dislike him.

Look out for Hillary...she is a cagey c**t and a sore loser. I also think she will do a Vince Foster on Obama - given half a chance. Obama needs a veep soon...and it better not be Billary.

"I won't sleep well until Obama names his running mate.

If the Clintons manage to VinceFoster him prior to that ... - Chuckamok"

Well, given that McCain leaked the details of Obama's Iraq trip you can't put anything past him either.

But that's ok. Obama is going to kick that old git's a$$.

And don't believe the polls that say it's close. In half of the country - northeast, west and nort central - Obama is leading in state polls by an average of 15 points. And there's 259 electoral votes locked up there. In the other half of the country he either has a small lead, is tied, or is running close. And the current polls don't take into consideration historic levels of young and black voter turnout. Kerry got 252EVs. Obama is going to win Iowa, that's 259. He's going to win New Mexico and the latinos, that's 264. And he'll close the deal for Colorado with the Denver DNC, that's 273 and the game. Plus he's got Ohio, Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, Florida, No Carolina, Nevada, Montana, N Dakota, and maybe even Georgia and Texas.

Unless there's a major 'health issue' or a major scandal (not a Mr. Enron or Rev Wright guilt-by-association type) Obama is the next President.

On July 11, 2008, Barack Obama, once again proved that he has very poor foreign policy judgment, as he did in his disastrous 2006 trip to Africa when he openly criticised the democratically elected presidents of South Africa and Kenya, which were then the two most stable and economically advanced societies in Africa. Obama did so in 2006 for the sake of cheap publicity, from a horde of news media who accompanied Obama to Africa, to promote his own presidential ambitions at the expense of American taxpayers. However, what was and remains overlooked by an American press corps intoxicated by Obamamania was the fact that Obama used federal government funds to openly campaign for his then undisclosed first cousin Raila Odinga by appearing in Odinga political rallies to promote the Kenyan presidential candidacy of Odinga and chide the democratically elected government of Kenya, while openly extolling a bunch of Kenyan political operatives seeking to defeat the government. Last week Obama was at it again, displaying the very same character flaws that undermine President Bushes leadership abilities -- arrogance, dismissive of counter views and criticism, stubbornness, and a false sense of his own historical importance.

Prior to ever stepping foot in Afghanistan and before leaving on a purported "fact finding" trip to that country Obama in an internationally televised interview with CNN (which was televised on July 13,2008) had the temerity to publicly criticise Afghanistan's president, by proclaiming: "I think the Karzai government has not gotten out of the bunker and helped to organize Afghanistan and (the) government, the judiciary, police forces, in ways that would give people confidence," Obama said. So there are a lot of problems there," he added, ahead of an expected visit to Afghanistan and Iraq. "A big chunk of the issue is that we allowed the Taliban and Al-Qaeda to regenerate itself when we had them on the ropes," Obama went on to say. "That was a big mistake and it's one I'm going to correct when I'm president."

Was this good foreign policy judgment in front of Obama's first trip to that country to openly criticise the democratically elected government of Karazi, as a freshman Senator with no foreign policy experience, save insulting the presidents of South Africa and Kenya in 2006? They are two important American allies in Africa fighting the spread of Islamic fundamentalism and jihad, as is Karazi.

Obama, whose only life experience was a stint as a civil rights worker in South Chicago before joining the Chicago machine and winning office by disqualifying all other candidates in the Democratic primary for state senator, made some off-the-cuff gaffs that the political press corps has all but ignored. Afganistan, like South Africa and Kenya is a multi-ethnic and tribalistic society. What would any person with a modicum of true foreign policy experience say publicly before meeting President Karzai? Little, if anything. For the conduct of foreign policy is given to the executive branch of the U.S. government by the Constitution. Obama, despite all his public arrogance, has not yet been elected to executive office. Moreover, Obama's rhetoric confuses glib and cheap campaign tactics of Chicago machine politics with the refined nuances of conducting foreign policy with democratically elected governments of sovereign nations. Obama needs to be reminded that Afganistan was not stabalised by the Soviet Red Army from its December 1979 invasion through its 1988 pull-out. Progress in Afganistan, like Africa, in political and economic development, as well as legal systems has been and remains slow and painful. Furthermore, Afganistan is not an American possession and public criticism of its democratically elected government serves no purpose other than a selfish agenda to promote Obama's presidential bid by world-wide publicity at the expense of undermining the allied government of President Karzai. Perhaps Obama's criticism would be better directed to Pakistan's creation of jihadi madrassas established under the military rule of madman General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, who overthrew the democratically elected government of President Ali Bhutto, hung Bhutto, established Shariah law in Pakistan. The creation of the nationwide web of jihidi incubators throughout Pakistan, through government sponsored and funded madrassas, is the root cause of present day radical Islamic fundamentalism and jihidi terrorism. Just look where the first World Trade Center bomber in 1993, Ramzi Mohammed Yousef, was indoctrinated - - a Pakistani madrassa, although he was a Kuwaiti by birth. Ramzi Yousef live in Karachi while he planned several terrorist attacks on innocent civilians. Interestingly, Barack Obama, unwittingly revealed that he visited Pakistan in 1981, during the military rule of Zia, as did thousand of militant Islamic fundamentalist radicals, during the infamous "Bittergate" fundraising speech in San Francisco, ironically exposed by The Huffington Post. Query: What was Barack Obama up to in Karachi, Pakistan in 1981.

"Yeah, and of course, we've got to get there first."

I won't sleep well until Obama names his running mate.

If the Clintons manage to VinceFoster him prior to that ...

Chuckamok,

It was the surge in *bribes* not the surge in forces that worked. But it'll only work for so long- taxpayers don't want to shell out long-term welfare money for Arabs just because they'll stop shooting at us for a while. That isn't a workable long-term solution.

Chuckamok,

Yeah, and of course, we've got to get there first. Hillary has already compared herself with LBJ- and we all know how he became President. And she's invoked RFK- and the dark spirits.

The Clintons truly are nasty, vicious people.

Lots of hyperventilating hyperbole here.

McCain long ago called for a surge.

And now it's working.

I loved the comment about Maliki kicking Bush around. Wasn't too long ago - Maliki was a spineless Bush puppet, or so we were to believe.

I'm awaiting November. I'll assess the Iraqi situation and the other issues and see which candidate makes the most sense. Then.

Lol....Sounds like the "Obama Haters" are in the studio coming up with more flops for their fans.....

JR - At the very least Obama has saved the nation from the horror of another White House infected with Clinton Slime.

The prospect of Hildebeast's lying mug plastered across my TV screen for eight years was nauseating.

Obama for inclusion on Mt. Rushmore!

The difference between a good politician and a mediocre politician is that the mediocre politician believes their own bs.

Witness Hillary Clinton: She is remaking herself as a 'feminist'. This from the lady who served as the chief of Bill's defense committee in silencing bimbo eruptions/womens voices during the '92 campaign. Real feminists don't believe her. She's lost the blacks and the upscale, intellectual wing of the party. What is she left with? The nutjobs and psychoexgirlfriend dot politics types that populate the left wing's lunatic fringe.

Witness John McCain: Who in cleaning up his rep after the Keating Five Scandal sanctimoniously championed campaign finance reform. No wonder he isn't raising Bush-type money- the Bush network knows he's a hypocrite and dislikes him. Oh, and did I mention that he is currently violating his own campaign finance law by not staying in the matching system- and that the media is giving him a pass on that. What else? He's holier than though, and he talks about his code and his oaths, but he kicked aside his first wife for a younger, prettier, richer model. Does he think that real evangelicals buy that? What else? He wants to be oh-so-tough on foreign policy but guess what: Bush realizes, like any sane person, that we shouldn't start WW III with Iran without at least speaking with them first. After all, what would war with Iran do to the price of oil... And, of course, we have been speaking with the Iranians all along- either through our friends the Brits in Iran or ourselves in Iraq.

As Big Daddy would say, "Oh, the mendacity!" And, it should be noted that Hillary Clinton's wanting to live in the White House with two men who do not love her makes her a modern day cat on a hot tin white house roof.

LeBubbiqua said:
If you are a fan of Karl Marx, Obama is your man! But he is better, a MUSLIM Marx.
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That was the funniest thing I've read in ages. Muslim Marx!! Somehow I think you can work Hitler, anarchy, Buddhism and flower arrangement in there also.

Be afore-warned.In this high-stake,life and death duel between the forces of light and darkness; we can't afford to fornicate with another "loser", John Mccain.
as a fighter pilot, Mccain lost big by failing to complete his mission in Vietnam does contributing to our defeat there which is a fact!!!.
George Bush lied his way into the Iraq war and quamire, the worst war in American history.He lost big.now he's being kicked around and dictated to by his own creation, Al-Maliki government.In history which superpower ever got so disrespected???.
Beause Americans don't support and hate losers,John Mccain is jus a loud mouth with empty head!!!.
See how Obama defines the issue,the strategic threat and George Bush and John Mccain follow.Who is the naturalleader here??.
First, it was conditional versus unconditional diplomacy.Talking to our enemies without preconditions.Now what is bush doing with Iran by sending Burns to meet the Iranians???.Biggest flip-flop!!!!.

Second, it was no "timetble".Now Bush, Mccain and Patreaus talk of "time horizon". Big time flip-flop again.

Obama says at least 2 brigades to Afhganistan. Mccain not to be undone, jumps up with 3 brigades,but doesn't know where these 3 brigades will come from:USA or NATO???.Is this a smart general let alone a future CIC???. No he just following Obama.Where is McCain original idea???. Give me one and I will vote for you!!!.He is either following Bush or Obama.What a sorry future CIC!!!!

"enduring" bases!!!!!

What everyone needs to realize is that these are going in, no matter who gets elected.

Actually, we are building many permanent military bases in Iraq. But we have promised not to build permanent bases so we will call them "enduring" bases. It isn't a lie- because nothing lasts forever. Republican lawyers have already confirmed that.

"MALIKY, THE IRAQI PRIME MINISTER AGREE WITH OBAMA REGARDING THE 16 MONTHS..."

Of course he does, it doesn't make him or BHO right.

"The central issue of this election is which candidate has the vision, strategic mind and sound judgment to set the new mission in Afhganistan."

No it isn't

The only reason it is even on the radar is because there were higher than usual losses last week. It will be a non-issue in a weeks time. We are building a base in, and never leaving Iraq, they have too much of a power vacuum going on in that region.

Calling John McCain names over the internet isn't the most noble ways of making your point.

MALIKY, THE IRAQI PRIME MINISTER AGREE WITH OBAMA REGARDING THE 16 MONTHS TIME LINE AND THE WASHINGTON POST DOESN'T EEVN MENTION IT. WHAT SELL OUT MERCENARIES.

The WaPo against gets Iraq wrong:

"McCain long has supported the troop surge policy in Iraq, which has helped to substantially reduce violence and U.S. casualties there..."

Actually, as everyone with half a brain and an affinity for the truth knows it was the surge in *bribes* paid to the Sunnis that helped reduce the violence. And we haven't won Iraq's civil war- once we are gone then it is really going to escalate between Shias and Sunnis, perhaps with Iran and Saudi Arabia joining the conflict. Given that we should, and want to leave, the question becomes: will a residual force of 30-50k soldiers be enough to stop the bloodletting.

As for Afghanistan, we should cut to the chase and bribe Karzai, let him manage the warlords and tribal chiefs, posse up and kill Bin Ladin, and then leave Afghanistan.

Anyhow, in this article the WaPo suggests that the surge in troops was the key to the decrease in violence. Why does the WaPo not publish the truth? I thought that was its mission....

Listen to these empty headed, right-wing fear-and hate-mongers:anti-christ,attended koran study,speaks indonesian,blah.blah!!!.

How relevant is the concept of anti-christ to national security?.I guess these morons never made it past high school!!!.

The central issue of this election is which candidate has the vision, strategic mind and sound judgment to set the new mission in Afhganistan.

Certanly,Mccain like Bush,evidence abounds,don't have the overall strategic thinking and vision to succeed.

If Bush an above average student couldn't do it, what can the last student in his class,who upto now can't differentiate between sunni and shia; able to do in thea complex world of national security and terrorism???

McCain claimed recently in one of his townhall meetings..."my friend, i can win wars"....Common, give us a break.What war has Mccain won, eh???.Vietnam?,Iraq?.Which war has McCain as a general or pilot did he win?.Getting shot down and breaking down and squealing confesions after conessions is noy my idea of a hero.Its my idea of a coward and a liar!!!

Yea that rapture is right around the corner adjacent your streets of gold recently repaved with the blood of innocent Iraqi children slaughtered by our B-52's (haven't lost one bombing a country that can't fight back) to steal their dead barbaric daddy's oil. Jesus Christ is coming back to cave in your heads for slandering his good name while setting chillen on fire to steal a country's oil who never fired a bullet at us. I think that hick you pay cash once a week to save your ass couldn't get you to WalMart in a minivan much less the Promised Land and while you wallow in some daily delusion of adequacy rolling grenades into the homes of uppity colored folks in our oil colony, BELIEVE one day you may actually be judged for your actions and in which case you have reservations for a little Italian hot spot called, Dante's near a river on fire with the blood of innocents. It sports an outdoor grill where it serves oil thievin hicks on a spit, 24-7, forever and a day, a veritable inferno.

In 1995, the doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation rapture was further popularized by Tim LaHaye's book series, Left Behind, which sold tens of millions of copies and was made into several movies.

The classic comic is now available at your local newsstand

What are you...some kind of athiest devil worshiper or something?

It says right in your post it sold tens of millions of copies and was made into several movies. Staring my friend and yours Kirk Cameron. You know as well as I do...that makes it true! Kirk Cameron wouldn't lie!

I actually read the books...have you?

You should pick one up...they are written at about a fifth grade level so anyone can understand them!

"George W. Bush, was a REPUBLICAN"

Yeah, one Republican.

I voted for McCain in the primaries in 2000...

Not lecturing, just a big what if.

Lump summing all republicans in with the current trainwreck administration is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I'm blaming congress for not taking the checks and balances route. They are just as responsible and need to start doing something.

Dem now Ind
It's very sad that you have such little faith in McCain winning that you have to put on this pretense of being a Clinton supporter.
Face it. The country has regained its sanity and will vote for Barack Obama by a landslide in 2008.

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Obama may very well be the Anti-Christ!

I think you should read the Left Behind series.

Tim LaHaye is a very wise man. Are you ready for the rapture?

Posted by: | July 19, 2008 1:31 PM

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Tim LeHay is a novelist -- just like Tom Clancy --

The popularization of the term "rapture" is associated with teaching of John Nelson Darby, prominent among the Plymouth Brethren, and the rise of premillennialism and dispensationalism in English-speaking churches at the end of the 19th century.

In 1908, the doctrine of the rapture was further popularized by an evangelist named William Eugene Blackstone, whose book, Jesus Is Coming, sold more than one million copies. The first known appearance of the theological use of the word "rapture" in print occurs with the Scofield Reference Bible of 1909.[11]

In 1995, the doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation rapture was further popularized by Tim LaHaye's book series, Left Behind, which sold tens of millions of copies and was made into several movies.

The classic comic is now available at your local newsstand.

I'm sorry only one person is responsible for screwing things up, but you're blaming the Congress for that.

Wouldn't that be more than one person?

Yeah and that one person, George W. Bush, was a REPUBLICAN. It's time for your Party to exercise some of that vaunted courage you keep telling us about and assume responsibility for your mistakes. You cannot run away from George W. Bush. You nominated him and he was elected. Twice. That's on your Party.

For you to now try to run away from it is the exact same level of hypocrisy and moral cowardice that you always accuse the other side of. It's the biggest act of cowardice there is.

The problem in this country is there is no sense of responsibility. And that starts directly with your Party and that cowardly moron you elected to lead it, George W. Bush. He, like most Republicans, despite claiming to be the adults are unable to ever take assume any responsibility for their mistakes and simply admit they're wrong.

Until your Party can learn to do so, I won't be taking any lectures on who's "fault" things are, thank you very much.

Do a LITTLE HOMEWORK AND YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWER.

Just google the term - antichrist --- or the rapture.

Both are a bunch of stupid heathen nonsense. Jerry Springer stuff.

Posted by: | July 19, 2008 1:43 PM

Dear Jesus,

Please forgive this poster...he doesn't mean what he says. Everyone knows you are coming for us very soon. It may even be the October surprise everyone talks about. If so, then the "stupid liberals" mentioned earlier will have the planet to themselves and they can vote for Obama (aka Anti-Christ). One more thing...I know GW can not run for office again here on earth but can he please be president of heaven?

Thank you Jesus...hope your having a great day.

Love Always,

A true believer!

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"Based on the comments here, you'd almost think it was the Democrats not the Republicans who managed to screw things up over the past 8 years."

Only one person is responsible for "screwing things up." The party and McC had nothing to do with it. Congress had a chance to act, they didn't.

Your comment has shed some light on our current situation...

Obama may very well be the Anti-Christ!

I think you should read the Left Behind series.

Tim LaHaye is a very wise man. Are you ready for the rapture?

Posted by: | July 19, 2008 1:31 PM
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What's the rapture???

Is that one of those stupid ideas invented in the mid-1800's by some nut-job evangelical New England preacher ??

Or was it some German preacher from the 1820s who predicted that the end was nigh and all his stupid followers sold all their earthly belongings and climbed up on a hilltop to wait for the arrival of Jesus Christ ??

And, how about this anti-christ idea? Where did that come from? It is certaInly NOT in the bible.

Was THE TERM "ANTI-CHRIST -- also invented by some nut-job evangelical preacher trying to make his church bigger than the next guy's church ??

Do a LITTLE HOMEWORK AND YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWER.

Just google the term - antichrist --- or the rapture.

Both are a bunch of stupid heathen nonsense. Jerry Springer stuff.

Wow Obama really intimidates you guys huh? Based on the comments here, you'd almost think it was the Democrats not the Republicans who managed to screw things up over the past 8 years.

Note to the neo-cons: We tried it your way. It FAILED! Big time. Now please have the decency to get the heck off the stage so we can start digging ourselves out of this mess YOU ALL got us into. Morons.

Has there ever been a dumber group of people who insist that they're smart, despite being constantly wrong, than the current crop of Rethuglicans and neo-cons? I mean honestly.

"what on earth possessed McCain to announce to the Taliban and Al Qaida"

Propaganda, media hype, liberal bias.

Sounds like you made up your own mind, don't vote for him.

"Barack Obama, is likely to be in Iraq over the weekend." and "I believe that either today or tomorrow -- and I'm not privy to his schedule" do not equal a conspiracy.

I notice you didn't even use a country in your complaint.

Attention world, BHO will be on the planet today!!!

Doesn't sound like a catholic to me!

Posted by: 566yh | July 19, 2008 1:35 PM

Not true...

I am Catholic and I once made a face during Koran study!

A small point missed by the McCain posters here (and, No, I am not an Obama supporter, I am a genuinely undecided voter) is what on earth possessed McCain to announce to the Taliban and Al Qaida that a high value target would be in their country. That McCain did this 36 hours in advance implicates the Bush Whitehouse's having leaked that information to him. ow, if any of us did something like this with (say) Bush's itinerary we would be immediately arrested...and with good reason. This brings into question McCain's competency to even be considered President... or, worse, his ruthlessness and lack of morals in jeapordizing the safety of a Presidential candidate. McCain needs to explain himself. I, for one, want some answers.

"You might add that for two of the four years the little kid was in Indonesia"

"He spent four years as a child in Indonesia and attended schools in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.

"I was a little Jakarta street kid," he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office. He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school"

Doesn't sound like a catholic to me!

From Reuters:

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.

In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

It is the first time he has backed the withdrawal timetable put forward by Obama.

Did that make him a Catholic ??

Or was he just a kid?

Posted by: | July 19, 2008 1:24 PM

Your comment has shed some light on our current situation...

Obama may very well be the Anti-Christ!

I think you should read the Left Behind series.

Tim LaHaye is a very wise man. Are you ready for the rapture?

Has anyone really looked at the polls? The ones that say Obama is leading? Well they are a joke. There is at least 10% UNDECIDED that the media NEVER mentions. And just like Hillary/Obama Primary, they will vote for McCain. And just like Hillary/Obama Primary, the polls continue to overstate Obama's lead percetage. Some of these polls, when you actually request and receive the back up, explains why. It is who they are polling and where! The ONLY chance the Democrats have in November is with Hillary Clinton as the respective Democrat nominee. It is Hillary, NOT Obama, that STILL beats McCain! Obama is already trending DOWN in the General Election just like the Primary! And of course, even so, the DNC, media, Obama supporters and his puppet master shove him down America's throat. He was not and is NOT qualified to be President. And more important, his character is certainly not acceptable for President. Hillary must be the nominee so that the Democrats actually WIN in November. Hillary is the better candidate. She is and always was a voice for the American people.

"You have to remind yourself, Iraq and Afghanistan are a significant part of the presidency now"

I agree with you about the economy part, but I think we will be in both countries for a very long time.

I think we will always have military bases there, not necessarily at war though.

well isn't this blog littered with the Mr. Magoo genetic mutants who murder chillen for oil contacts. What's your 72-year-old inbred hick goin to fetch up for Jesus when you runs out of colored chillen to phosphorize for academic mutants round the globe. You aren't America. You're racist, illiterate white trash playing some game in your Maw-Maw's garage. Saudis attacked us a jowel sucking mutant hick chemically bombs the wrong country to fetch up their oil for Jesus. Jesus hates your inbred dirt sucking guts, not unlike the rest of bipedal America. You goin fetch you up some of dat elusive manhood lighting colored chillen on far for Ray Hunt Hick Boy????

Mike in CA-

Another self loathing America hater....just like all other Obama supporters.

Too bad empty suit Islam Obama will only win about 5 states this fall.

Posted by: Ray | July 19, 2008 1:17 PM

Is that you Sean Hannity?

"Too bad empty suit Islam Obama will only win about 5 states this fall."

And everyone will blame it on "racism"

Different packaging same product.

You have to remind yourself, Iraq and Afghanistan are a significant part of the presidency now, but in 2 years from now theres a good chance they will only be significant in historical terms.

The presidency, first and foremost, is about developing a STRONG ECONOMY thats worth protecting against foreign threats. Republicans often get it wrong and focus on foreign policy first...

McCain speaking about how often he goes to Iraq and Afghanistan is only cementing the view that he has a one track mind. The man aligned himself with Bush form the start by accepting Bushe's endorsement, suprising to me, he faced no backlash from his supporters. If he is not against 4 more years of the same type of administration and policy we're dealing with now, I guarantee McCain will fail.

If the same kind of administration continues, we will dump billions more overseas to protect the democracy of other countries for oil, while we lose our individual rights to not being wiretapped and spied on here, big business will keep dictating policy through lobbying, Investment rules will be skewed to prevent people below the level from rising up, and there will only be wealthy homeowners, record new forclosures for the working class, and high rent for everyone else to keep them entrenched in their future financial ruts.

VOTE OBAMA

"Vote Republican, and you get what you deserve"

Because Socialism works so much better!

Mike in CA-

Another self loathing America hater....just like all other Obama supporters.

Too bad empty suit Islam Obama will only win about 5 states this fall.

"Who better to protect what we "REAL AMERICANS" worked so hard to create!"

I see Romney sneaking around!(VP)

Although I think it should be Powell...

Who better than Earl Hick Tractorpull Johnson than to spread racist phony lies and ignore the last 7 years of American decline.

Sen. Obama, the Afghans make great carpets. Please bring one back for McCain's head.

"It's in the New York Times no less you stupid liberals!"

Yeh! You morons...with all your education and stuff! PHD this and Constitional Law Professor that!

Wait...isn't the New York Times a "liberal" newspaper?

Doen't that mean they are stupid? Maybe the story is wrong? Your rational not mine.

"Media Tiptoed Around Details of Iraq Trip." But did McCain?"

Except he's not in Iraq, he's in Afghanistan today.

posted by ?
first obama said he was going to have all troops out of iraq by the end of 09.
then it was 2 combat brigades a month until they were all out in 16 months.
now he says he will listen to the commanders on the field and "consider" what they have to say. he does not say he will follow their advice, not yet anyway.
either hussein obama does not know how to read a calendar or he does not know how to count.
....

Need I remind you that GWB listened only to commanders that told him what he wanted to hear and dismissed the ones who told him what he didn't want to hear? That's why 4 YEARS into this damn war they had to send more troops, that they should've done in the first place.
Seriously, you Bush voters have some incredibly selective amnesia.

"Barack Obama, is likely to be in Iraq over the weekend."

and

"I believe that either today or tomorrow -- and I'm not privy to his schedule"

Not like it was a closely guarded secret, we've only been hearing about it for the past two months.

No specifics were given and they are all very large countries.

Obama and Hagel in Afganistan. THE dream ticket for this independent!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/07/media_quiet_on_reporting_speci.php

"Media Tiptoed Around Details of Iraq Trip." But did McCain?

I am another taxpayer who wants to know just how much money this Monumental Excercise in Narcissistic Politics is going to cost my family. With a phalanx of news reporters, adoring servants and companions, this NON-NOMINEE set off in a limosine adorned by a fake presidential seal for the airport. How much? We have a right to know.

"I wonder if Obama will vist Czechoslovakia?"

And Poland!?!?!

I guess they can forget about the missile shield.

Hold his feet to the fire Poland!!!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/204672.php

"Did McCain Let the Cat Out of the Bag?" It appears the "liberal" media may have acted more responsibly then Senator McCain.

"This guy doesn't take a dump without our knowing"

That's because he poops gold bars! Everyone knows that!

Don't you guys watch the news?

"Details of his itinerary in the war zone were kept closely guarded"

We already knew, thanks to the liberal media's love affair.

This guy doesn't take a dump without our knowing. I'm sick of hearing about him.

NOURI-Nice TRY! ;~)

Bad News. I also Hate Bushie and do NOT think McAmnesty is the right man either!

Change, REAL Change, can only be found outside the Beltway.

Barry is NOT an "Empty Suit" as he tries to appear. There is an Ugly Multi-Headed Hydra of Spider Cob-Web encrusted Oldies and their World Labor party supporting Master, Hiding inside!

Teddy Kennedy, Tom Daschle, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, and other Senators, and House Reps, along with George Soros and His Money/ Intersts, are the Hydra!

You call THAT Change?

Then fool, Halliburton would be replaced by French and other "Soros" related Enterprises if removed. Halliburton is a conglomerate of American companies who were formed up ahead of time, to expedite what would have been otherwise time consuming and delayed projects.

The "Bidding" was ALREADY done!

mittromney.com

Go THERE, and read his "Issues" section, and SEE what "Change" COULD Be!

McClown? Like Cheney, a Formidible VP!

Think of him as the 51Rst Senator/ White House-Sitter! ;~)

"BHO hasn't had one new idea durng his entire campaign that he hasn't shifted to the center on. BHO seems to shift his stances based on McCains lead. "

Exactly...

At first Obama thought AQ were Sunni's then McCain corrected him on that one.

Then Obama was for the GI bill...McCain's wisdom and experience straightened him out on that one too.

Also, BO keeps flying to D.C. to vote. Let's hope he follows McCain's lead and stops doing that as well.

I wonder if Obama will vist Czechoslovakia?

If he finished a term or two in the Senate and have some kind of quantifiable voting record and I would actually consider voting for Barack.

Quite a few people are starting to realize he ran too soon.

"Details of his itinerary in the war zone were kept closely guarded for security reasons..."

Evidently Senator John McCain either didn't care about security for Senator Obama and his party or he is just plain careless because on Friday McCain was out on the stump talking about Obama's travel plans.

What a shame that Mr. Balz didn't bother to inform his readers of McCain's actions or bother to ask McCain or his campaign to explain McCain's breach of established protocols when a fellow senator travels to a war zone.

I hope Mr. Balz will not shield Senator McCain in future pieces.

first obama said he was going to have all troops out of iraq by the end of 09.
then it was 2 combat brigades a month until they were all out in 16 months.
now he says he will listen to the commanders on the field and "consider" what they have to say. he does not say he will follow their advice, not yet anyway.
either hussein obama does not know how to read a calendar or he does not know how to count.
wait there is one more choice. HE IS A LIAR and will say whatever he thinks people want to here.

There is absolutely no way Obama represents troups better than McCain. Liberals never get it. It is McCain who spend 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war, who flew miliary aircraft into harms way, who lead troops. Obama is an anti-military, immature, and uninitiated candidate. No one would be hired for any executive position with 2 years experience. His candidacy is a joke!

"So McCain and Bush copy Obama's foreign policy proposals "

BHO copied their stances. Troop downsizing has been on the table for two years. Don't act like it's something BHO came up with!

Higher than average loses during one day in Afghanistan last week brought on this latest shift.

BHO hasn't had one new idea durng his entire campaign that he hasn't shifted to the center on. BHO seems to shift his stances based on McCains lead.

The ATLMac said:
The pragmatic sheik's who run their tribes now know better than to back losers like Al Qaeda. They've thrown their lot in with the Iraqi government. The Sunni's are re-joining that same government and the Iraqi army has pushed the Shiite militia out of existence.
...

2 out of 3 sentences here are incorrect, anyone out there care to say which ones? HInt: not the one with the incorrect apostrophe.

"Barack Hussein Obama has gone home to the middle east. I hope he finds himself and joins with his brethren"

At first I thougth "wow that is really stupid" then I remembered the New Yorker...

It's satire again! I get it!

"The troops understand very well that Sen. Obama represents them far better than Sen. McCain. This is proven by Obama's consistently higher ratings than McCain among veteran's groups."

Veterans benefits are the cause of this, not occupation.

Current soldiers on the ground gravitate towards John McCain.

Stop propaganda posting!

Barack Hussein Obama has gone home to the middle east. I hope he finds himself and joins with his brethren. Soon he will feel free to express his and his wives true hatred of the USA. Maybe he will move there and start a family with several more wives...He can be the next Saddam Hussein, who was his namesake.

So McCain and Bush copy Obama's foreign policy proposals and then claim that Obama cannot be trusted on foreign policy. That tells you all you need to know about who should be trusted on foreign policy.

"Al-Maliki backing Obama's time table shows clearly shows whose side Obama is on."

Of course he does, anything to get us out. We're like the house guest who wouldn't leave.

We need to have a presence there, a power vacuum still exists.

IT'S ABOUT TIME HE VISITS THE TROOPS!!!
Posted by: BJE500 | July 19, 2008 11:31 AM
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The troops understand very well that Sen. Obama represents them far better than Sen. McCain. This is proven by Obama's consistently higher ratings than McCain among veteran's groups.

"Too bad we didn't go straight to Afghanistan "

We did.

Try posting something that doesn't sound like propaganda!

Posted by: ffjlk |"

Pardon me for not clarifying. I was thinking in terms of the vast of our military that went to occupy Iraq, instead all of them or a very vast percentage of them, being deployed with the rest and straight to (with specific focus and all of that effort) Afghanistan.

I'm sorry to inform you Obama haters that he has been to Iraq before, he went there in January 2006.

"Too bad we didn't go straight to Afghanistan "

We did.

Try posting something that doesn't sound like propaganda!

"Folks, just like the Ferret/ Persian Lap-Doggie of Putin's, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is able to walk around without any fear from Forces we Fight;
So can O'Flip-Floppa!
"Barry" O'Bomba-Nation would have NOTHING to fear walking into a Taliban Headquarters alone, and un-Armed(Geeze, give Barry a loaded Gun, and he'd be a danger only to himself!).
THAT, is not only a Fact, but something anyone with a BRAIN is this Country should be very, VERY Scared about with him trying to become OUR CIC! :-(
HE, will NOT be representing the People of the US!
The World Labor Party, and George Soros, are NOT American! :-(
Posted by: SAINT-The | July 19, 2008 11:49 AM"

You are right the true US patriots are those that have the luxury to waste $50 billion of US taxpayer's money a month on an illegal war like Iraq.

Furthemore the true US patriots are the ones that drive the economy into black in trillions of dollars and still have money to susbsidisy those that have it all in sectors like banking thanks to their inneficient mismanagement.

Add to this, the true US patriots are those that can milk you with the pretext of "War on Teror" instead of "War on corruption Mafia style" and intimmidate you to accept laws such as the so called "PATRIOT ACT".

To top it up, the same so called patriotts are allowed to help themselves to the US treasury and take whatever they want with networks well connected with the likes of the Cheneys, the Rusmfled, Bush, Rove etc. and support foreign countries like ISRAEL & EGYPT with billions of dollars in donations when the economy is in dire state!!!!and also allowing companies with no bid contracts like HALLIBURTON, BLACKWATER etc. to charge the state whatever they want as seen in theirr invoices towards the Military in Kuwait and Iraq! This is called patriotism!

YOUR NEOCONS NONSENSE IS NOT WORKING ANYMORE AND THE US MIDDLE CLASS IS FULLY AWARE WHAT THE TRUE MEANING OF PATRIOTISM especially when the gap is getting wider between them and the top 10% OF THE SOCIETY!

A TRUE AMERICAN IS NOT EXPECTED UNDER THE FREE MARKET RULES TO SUBSIDISY THOSE THAT HAVE IT ALL. THE NEOCONS ARE IMPLEMENTING YOUR STATE SOCIALISM. I WONDER HOW YOU FAILED TO SPOT IT! NO MORE LIES! TIME FOR CHANGE!

POPPY FIELDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION ---- TIME TO AWAKEN

The beautiful and delicate poppy that now paints the landscapes of Afghanistan with vibrant colors, has long been the symbol for sacrifice. The aesthetic is as soothing to the sense of sight, as it is exasperating to the conscience.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/04/poppy-fields-of-mass-destruction.html

Drastic action is required.

------------------------

On the HOME FRONT, WHILE OBAMA IS TRAVELING, .....

HILLARY MAY BE ANTICIPATING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME AT THE CONVENTION

The Democratic convention is not over and done with.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-clintons-presidential-campaign.html

Too bad we didn't go straight to Afghanistan instead of being distracted with Saddam Hussein, and in the process costing us a valuable 4000+. Plenty of foreigners welcome Obama, and enough view McCain as plenty of us view him, a third term if not a similar one. Now we're in this Iraq issue, troops stretched thin, and what a toll this country has taken in the midst of it all, etc. Many foreigners take to Obama's character that they see, as plenty of us here in the U.S. Many of us around the world, together, look forward to Obama restoring some credibility of this country to the rest of the world, and to begin working on helping a great portion of our people (as foreigners are also aware) address our troubles that Bush and McCain both, with a portion of their characters, are more likely than Obama to neglect.

Go Obama!!

Al-Maliki backing Obama's time table shows clearly shows whose side Obama is on. Obama seems to know and care Iraq's interests more than America's security.

Aaaaannnnnd O'Flip-Floppa makes his decisive statement from Afghanistan:

"Present". ;~)

Sen. Obama does not have the judgment or character needed to lead the United States.

If President Bush had cut and run like Obama and the Democrat Congress wanted him to do, Obama would not be able to travel to Iraq today. The place would be a lawless, third world no-man's land. It would be a place where Al Qaeda and its Sunni allies perpetually strive to butcher the Iranians and their Shiite's. The Iraqi people would once again be caught in an endless nightmare. At the same time, Al Qaeda and the rest of the Islamist terrorist thugs would once again be taught the valuable lesson that the way to win is slaughter innocent people. If they kill and maim enough people, no one will have the nerve to stop them. It would also teach all of our stalwart allies that helping America do the right thing is crazy, especially if it's unpopular and politically risky. What a great place the world would be!

Because Bush had the resolve to stay, the surge worked. It took a long time, it wasn't always pretty and it wasn't a lot of fun, but we (that's the US, Iraq and the world) now have a chance to win. Violence is way down. The Iraqi people have started rebuilding their lives and their country. Al Qaeda has lost its support among the population. The pragmatic sheik's who run their tribes now know better than to back losers like Al Qaeda. They've thrown their lot in with the Iraqi government. The Sunni's are re-joining that same government and the Iraqi army has pushed the Shiite militia out of existence.

As a result of all this "change", Sen. Obama is now free and able to take his traveling campaign rally to the place he tried so hard to destroy.

I hope someone in Iraq has the guts to discuss consequences with the good senator. There's a big difference in purple-finger pride and dead bodies in the street. Obama's absolutely clueless about how much his lack of courage and poor judgment would have cost the U.S., Iraq and the world. Too bad all those network anchors accompanying him don't have the nerve (or is it the brains) to ask why Obama's still backing a failed, cowardly, flawed strategy that would have killed millions and made America the laughing stock of the world.

What does an empty suit do in a war zone that's different from the safety of home?

Nothing. He has done nothing at home and will do nothing in Afghanistan or Iraq. Except make promises more empty than his suit.

"It's very funny to read these posts from a bunch of tools who point out BO's lack of experience, yet every one of them most likely voted for Bush over Gore & Kerry."

Not just that, they probably voted for Bush over McCain in the 2000 primaries.

Somebody invent a time machine!

Perhaps BO should offer to give McCain a tour of the floor of the Senate.

since this is a staged event he's not taking his jackie (michele)with him or will she fly to berlin when he gives his jfk speech.

You dittoheads make me laugh my ass off. First you're so mock shocked and dismayed that Obama is making foreign policy pronouncements without ever having been to Iraq - now that he's going, you're mock shocked about the trip.

Which comes right after McCain goes over to set up a fake photo shoot at a security-sanitized market, to create the fiction that it's all safe and hunkey-dorey in Iraq now (but not safe enough to let any American soldiers on their third tour of duty to come home).

The most hilarious part of the dittohead dittospeak is the idea that only people who have toured Iraq could possibly be in a position to dictate foreign policy.

Um, dunderheads, case in point: Cheney and other members of the Bush Team have been there a bunch (and Bush himself got on a nearby aircraft carrier and declared that our mission had been accomplished several years ago - remember?).

So with all that collective Bush admin experience walking around on the ground in Iraq, how come we still have four-fifths of our armed forces there, and why are we still spending a bazillion dollars a week on defense contractors in Iraq while China and Saudi Arabia buy up all our real estate and treasury notes, the value of the dollar swirls down the toilet and whatever is left in the treasury is being spent on Bush administration-approved bail-outs for fat-cat investment bankers who got caught greedily snapping up portfolios full of substandard mortgages?

Can you go call up Rushbo and see if he can write you down an answer for that one?

As for me, I'm willing to give Obama a chance - or anyone else not tied to the neocon me-firsters.

Really, unless you're fluffy white and independently wealthy enough that you're making seven figures just on interest - or high up in the defense contractor or oil company management feeding chain - why on earth would you punch yourself in the face by voting for a Republican again in your lifetime?

Oh, wait, you take your marching orders from Rushbo. 'nuf said.

lil hussein obama's text of speach to the troops:
"i'm here for change and we are going to change together.
i'm going to change you from victors to losers.
i'm going to change your weight - put down those guns and take off that body armor. mow dont you feel lighter?
now tear down that red white and blue rag you carry around and put up this white one.
can you feel the change - i can feel the change.
now i know you are feeling tired so all of you get on your knees, and dont worry about the man from behind you or that clicking sound.
yes change, i can feel the change in the air.
allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar, allah akbar."
voice from off screen:
Mr. obama that is the speech you read AFTER you get elected, not before. we will take care of the bodies for you Mr. obama, don't worry about it.
lussein obama:
Thank you general clark, there will be a place for you in the new islamic republic of America.
general clark:
it will be an honor to serve.

Folks, just like the Ferret/ Persian Lap-Doggie of Putin's, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is able to walk around without any fear from Forces we Fight;

So can O'Flip-Floppa!

"Barry" O'Bomba-Nation would have NOTHING to fear walking into a Taliban Headquarters alone, and un-Armed(Geeze, give Barry a loaded Gun, and he'd be a danger only to himself!).

THAT, is not only a Fact, but something anyone with a BRAIN is this Country should be very, VERY Scared about with him trying to become OUR CIC! :-(

HE, will NOT be representing the People of the US!

The World Labor Party, and George Soros, are NOT American! :-(

It's very funny to read these posts from a bunch of tools who point out BO's lack of experience, yet every one of them most likely voted for Bush over Gore & Kerry.

Classic!

"IT'S ABOUT TIME HE VISITS THE TROOPS!!!"
Posted by: BJE500 | July 19, 2008 11:31 AM

He's been to Walter Reed more times than Bush. Maybe it's time *your president* visit those troops he got wounded and maimed for no honest reason.

Hey Republicans! Where was all that zeal for military experience in 2004? You stood strong for your AWOL coward GWB and ridiculed the service of John Kerry. You mocked Purple Heart recipients with the ugly display of purple bandages at your convention. You revived the attacks against Vietnam vets with the term "baby killers". I suppose next you'll claim that the bombs McCain dropped from his plane didn't kill any babies?
McCain got the POW Heroes' welcome when he returned. Unfortunately, the rest of the Vietnam vets got insults and neglect.

"I'm glad to see the Bush administration is finally taking Obama's ..."

He didn't come up with this idea, it's been floated for 2 years.

We're never leaving Iraq, we may lessen the amount of troops, but we will have a base there for decades, whether he is President or not...

The first thing Pres. Obama needs to do is stop/kick out halibutron, kbr, carlyle group, blackwater....STOP LETTING THESE COMPANIES PROFITING OFF AMERICAN SOLDIER LIVES....THE BIGGEST KILLER TO AMERICANS ARE THE BUSH AND THE BOYS...THESE ARE THE REASON BUSH WANTED WAR SO THESE COMPANIES COULS STEAL AMERICA FROM AMERICANS!!!

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Five Democratic senators called on Friday for an independent review of electrical work at U.S. bases in Iraq where more than a dozen soldiers have been electrocuted and others injured.

In a letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the senators objected to KBR Inc, the Pentagon's largest private contractor in Iraq, reviewing its own performance. The Houston company previously has faced accusations of overbilling, providing unsafe water to soldiers and other lapses.

HAPPY AMERICA???? NOW YOU ARE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BECAUSE OF REPUBLICANS!!

"I'm more interested in listening than in doing a lot of talking" says everything I need to hear. What a welcome change in our image abroad and in his formulation of domestic policy as well...

"Well, you know, I'm more interested in listening than doing a lot of talking," Obama replied. That's because his handlers have told him that since he doesn't have the remotest idea what he's talking about; and, has ALREADY stated his position on Afganistan PRIOR-TO the trip, to simply listen and LOOK intelligent instead of sticking his proverbial foot in his mouth as he so frequently does with off-the-cuff ,non-scripted ,comments. It's incredible that the Democrats have nominated Obama, the least qualified Presidential candidate in American history, for the leadership of the free world. May God protect us. Greg Neubeck

"Lets put the military experience issue in its proper context."

Lets:

"an unguided 5-inch Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in a LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on a F-4 Phantom II, was accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external power to internal power.

The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on a A-4 Skyhawk awaiting launch, either aircraft No. 405, piloted by LCDR Fred D. White, or No. 416, piloted by future U.S. Senator and Presidential candidate, LCDR John McCain."

"he spent five years in a North Vietnam prison,"

"McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well."

This resulted in additional years of torture, and permanent injuries.

This is a man of character, who stays until the job is done. Not an empty suit, telling you what you want to hear.

Yes, it certainly qualifies him. I only wish it had qualified him back in 2000...

It is the same old rumor crew this morning-the very same people who belong to the Reagan cult are trying to convince us that evryone who supports Obama is a cult, a socialist, and an America Hater.

Add to this the fact that every Democratic nominee is the most liberal. Same old, same old.

Commonsense and records show the most liberal senators are Sanders, Kennedy, Schumer, and Feingold, and possibly Dodd, Leahy, and Reed.

p

Listen! McCain graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Acadamy.

Obama graduated at the top of his class at Harvard.

By the way Bush graduated way down in his class at Yale.

This should tell you everything you need to know.

You have to be real intelligent to be a GOOD president.

This doesn't mean McCain coukd't have be a good pilot, and even a great courageous prisoner.

Its easy to envision Bush as a failed oil wild catter, and a mediocre baseball executive.

But to be PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL AND COMPLICATED NATION ON EARTH.

The applicant must possess world class smarts which Obama clearly does. Its that simple
lux

Richard Whetstone

Absolutely not. Your outline is very clear to emphasize.

Black Saint wrote:I think before Obama starts telling Americans to learn Spanish to make life easier for the invading horde of Hispanics he should request Blacks to learn English!
===========================================To put harsh insensitive divisive words such as these in print demonstrates the caliber of your mental aptitude. How dare you generalize. In every segment of society there exist people who are less articulate than others. You are probably one of those people who are tolerant of some peoples shortcomings and very intolerant of people who do not walk the same path that you are privileged to walk.

IT'S ABOUT TIME HE VISITS THE TROOPS!!!

I'm glad to see the Bush administration is finally taking Obama's advice:
1. Discussing a timeline for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq...oh, right - a time HORIZON. (sheesh!)
2. Finally sending a U.S. diplomat - Burns - to the table with Iran. (although, I'm skeptical this is another Bush ploy, like the so-called "diplomacy" with Iraq as bombs were being loaded.)
3. Focus back to the REAL enemy - Osama bin Laden, al Queda, the Taliban. Remember? The ones' who attacked us on 9/11.

The world is waiting for us to regain our national sanity and elect President Barack Obama, who will restore the U.S. to the moral high ground we once represented to the world.

Lets put the military experience issue in its proper context. McCain ranked at the bottom of his class at Annapolis, he was involved in a flying accident that killed 132 U. S. sailors, he spent five years in a North Vietnam prison, and he was a commandant of a flight squadron after release from prison. Does any of these experiences give him any special qualifications to be president?

How much is this traveling political rally costing the taxpayers? We deserve to know.

Colton: WAKE UP. You look like are one of the Obama Zombies who can see any negative FACTS of Obama as 'fiction' and any POSITIVE 'fiction' about OBAMA as fact. I hope you have enough intelligence to go back and check the facts.
I challenge you to prove me wrong on any of the statements I made in my post earlier.

"t's like attacking Italy to get rid of the Mafia."

No it's not.

Weeding them out over there, assures not having to weed them out on Main St USA.

We need a permanent presence in Iraq, leave there now and we'll just be back in 10 years time.

We need to have a base there just like in Korea, Japan, and Germany. Our presence in these places was unpopular initially also.

We are no longer at war with them, we're attempting a soft power intervention on their govt, populace and region.

Long overdue, and it will be unpopular for their citizens and ours for many decades.

Wow - He has been telling Americans what we should do in Iraq and Afghanistan and he NOW finally decides to go! And the media NEVER mentions that!
WAKE UP AMERICA!
It is amazing that some Americans are in awe of a man that is:
Tied to criminals in Chicago
Tied to a black supremist, racist and Anti-American minister for 20 years
and has done NOTHING for America or Americans. NOTHING.
And some Americans hang on to his every word about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan:
when he just NOW visits
and he NEVER held any meetings on Afghanistan when he was head of the committee

And some Americans want to vote for him because of his EXPERIENCE...
experience with criminals
experience with Anti-American ministers and Racist
and NONE in leadship or government...oops..a year in the Senate! WOW!

Obama is the biggest fraud to ever step foot in this country. He should be totally UNelectable. AMERICA WAKE UP!
Europe and the Middle East - If you like him so much then do America a BIG favor........Please keep him over there! And elect him as your President! He is NOT good enough for our country. The SAME country that his minister and "mentor" and "uncle" ran in the ground for 20 Years as he, with his whole family beside him, listened!

Obama, Stay overseas! You are NOT good enough for America! Not even close! And PS - Axelrod, your puppet master, can stay overseas with you!

I'm not directly in the military, but I am married in a sense to the military. I'd rather have my husband, an army officer and vet, instead of McCain because he actually has experience, and he KNOWS. McCain has no ground combat experience flying planes (though I respect his historical service to this country). I would rather have an experienced Marine vet, or an Army vet, with ground combat obviously, to make decisions with understanding of our troops. McCain doesn't have it, and neither does Obama. With the choices leveled like that, it boils down to judgment like Clark said. I trust Obama's judgment over McCain's in looking out for our people, and making well informed decisions. I'm not saying McCain wouldn't, but compared to Obama, Obama's The Choice. I speak for myself.

First of all, while the majority seem to feel that Senator McCain is more experienced and knowledgeable on foreign policy and national security than Senator Obama, I find it interesting that the administration finally seems to be following Senator Obama's ideas - regarding both Afghanistan and Iraq and using diplomacy with Iran. Maybe his measured, common sense ideas and good judgment are finally being adopted by others. Experience without wisdom and good judgment is useless. I think Vice-President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld and many others in this administration have shown that. And let's not forget that Senator McCain said going into Iraq would be easy.
I am amazed at the negative comments in this post about Barack Obama's current trip and the comments about his not having gone before. I don't recall past Presidents in Vietnam, Korea and World War II traveling to the war zone to get information. There are many ways to find out what is happening "on the ground". Going there is not even necessarily the best one.
The common sense of Senator Obama, his good judgment on foreign policy (including his speech on Iraq in 2002), his recognition that we live in a time when we need to work WITH the rest of the world to solve problems and that we need to use diplomacy first and force last all seem to me to be the best indicators that he, not Senator McCain, is the one to trust on national security and foreign policy.

CJ,
Remember hearing someone say that you are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts?
Your post is a long litany of your own facts without support. That qualifies it as an ignorant rant.

Then there's this gem from charko825: "His (Obama's) recent photo in the New Yorker proves that he is a Muslim too."

So much for the contention that everyone is smart enough to recognize the satire in the New Yorker cover! charko825 took it as verification of his false belief as have many other intellectually challenged individuals. It's sad, really. It does prove that the Swift Boaters are alive and well and on the job.

No more or less qualified than McCain, and that is a fact. I will pull the page of qualifications in an instant to support this statement. Both have experience as Senators, McCain having served more time than Obama, but ultimately equals zero presidential experience, like Obama. Neither has had that. Neither has had President 101, or carried sole presidential burden to gain presidential experience. I can also pull up a page that shows the specific duties of the presidential position. Looking at the list, anyone can do it. SO......we go right back to the key component, JUDGMENT, behind the presidential position. McCain is equally clueless, if not more than Obama on some very key issues important to a great many in this here country, as some people view Obama vice versa (I do not). I suppose it depends on your position here that affects your support. In my personal opinion, based on my personal book of qualifications, Obama is more qualified than McCain, easily.

"I am pleased, and prefer Obama (without military experience at all)."

Spoken like a person with no personal military experience...

You ALWAYS want the guy with more experience in charge when you're boots on the ground in a foreign land.

McCain may not be conservative enough for me, but he's had his personal trial by fire. Clark was a fool for questioning this man's integrity.

The Devil you know...

Lets deal with the basic ascertainable facts on the last 7 years of the Muslim policy muddle - hopefully so even the less intellectually gifted republicans can understand.
Here goes:
A group of Muslim radicals, a gang i f you will, armed with BOXCUTERS used our technology to atack several high profile targets in the US: 4 fuel filled transcontinental Jets. Since there was such considerable jet fuel aboard these planes and since they were moving at 500+ MPH, these were not just transportation vehicles.
These Vehicles were large destructive weapons equal to a very big smart bomb: very destructive. There were 19 of these guys armed with boxed cutters who commandeered them. This was our enemy.
It was quickly established that they were surrogates of the Al Quida group in Afghanistan led by Bin Laden, and Imam al Zwarri. They were for all intentions a criminal gang, a RELIGIOUS MAFIA IF YOU WILL!
These groups had considerable influence with the anarchistic rebel army in Afghanistan. the Taliban in some cases overlapping
However this was not the serious army of an nation state. They had to be rooted out of the mountains and outback of afghanistan- if we had finishe that job it seems fairly evident that that group would have been effectivly castrated. Especially if the main charismatic leaders had been taken out.
Instead for reasons only understandable to Bush, Cheney, Rummy ET all the administration made this really irrational move to pursue and attack Saddam Hussein, the tyrant leader of a totalitarian state- the kind of leader who would never have allowed such anarchists as the Bin Laden gang to inhabit any part of his realm - he executed such types as soon as he found them.
He was not a nice man, not at all but quite negative to free wheeling loose nuts like Al Q. who wood have been threats to his power.
What the Bush imbeciles did was not finished the work to be done, but inexplicably turned to a place that would have had no likelihood to have encourage Muslim extremist.
It's like attacking Italy to get rid of the Mafia. Or attacking Uganda to do in the Cripps, and Kenya to clear out the Bloods.

Man you got to admit it was extremely stupid or maliciously evil.

I love to hear the prattle of the would be neo cons, conservatives, republicans- its so, so so very ASSININE.-HISTORICAL WORLD CLASS CLUELESSNESS.

Barrack is doing the right thing by going to the scenes of the various crimes and beginning a process of disentanglement of the clusterf**k of pathological policy fostered on us by that conspiracy of dunces.
LUX

Watch Bozo Barry try to fool you into thinking he has foreign policy experience. Watch him tap dance across the globe. No matter how smooth a talker he his, and no matter how glowing a report the sycophantic left wing pinko liberal press gives this guy, it still doesn't change the fact that he's unqualified to be president.

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!!

I think I would rather have, among other components, an actual army or marine veteran with ground experience in combat to serve as Commander in Chief, of our military forces, over McCain. I don't believe that McCain has any clue about that, and I am all the more paranoid of him being in charge of our troops. Clark was very correct, and what a credible source he is, to make his statement concerning the discernment between McCain's military experience and necessary judgment for POTUS. I am pleased, and prefer Obama (without military experience at all). I trust him to be well informed, and to make careful judgement accordingly. I believe he is best equipped with intent to serve all of us peop